This is the same reason we do not have missionary farewells any longer. This year in my ward the emphasis was shifted slightly from being a mother to our mothers. She talked about how her convert mother negotiated church attendance with her inactive husband, how she brought the gospel into the home to the extent she could while maintaining close family ties and coping with her own faith struggles, and how her example and choices blessed her home. Just sharing those times with women in the scriptures and what we can learn from them - and NOT have a focus on mothers. American LDS women who attended Sacrament Meeting were told that they have a lot of innate qualities, such as being righteous, spiritual, pure, or nurturing. That bishop that moved his ward away from elaborate gifting was doing the right thing. Give the gift of time. Men tended to speak about angel mothers who bore no resemblance to mine. And, even worse, we are also cutting them off from the grace and redemption that Jesus offers. I have seen, heard and experienced much of the imperfections, joys and sorrows in life, and know that reaching out for and holding on to the Iron Rod brings souls closer to the ideals with every step. Because children can be wayward we should not celebrate parenthood. Get plenty HPs and Elders. Talking to other grownups while nice doesnt belong in 3rd hour. Let us take as self-evident that, in reality, not all women are naturally pure or spiritual. On this site you will find a variety of arrangements for ward choirs, solo piano, vocal duets and more. "I am a sociopathic perverted mess emotionally and mentally thanks to the influence of my insane codependent mother.'". Its hard to please everyone. It was my missionary farewell, back when such things were acceptable. Yeah. Gospel Q&A: Do We Really Have the Spirit With Us All the Time? I love this. My own father would probably appreciate a plant, but fortunately he enjoys cookies too. Its never the men. You then leap to classifying it a family celebration rather than a national holiday. Seriously, no one is going to be pleased. On Mothers Day. Personally, I like cookies. I have to go home right after Sacrament meeting, because the Sisters all bring their flowers with them to the other meetings. It is awkward for those who are NOT mothers and I don't think fathers get their due comparibly. For the third verse, I composed a counterpoint for the choir to sing while the kids sang the melody. Theologies have consequences. Teach Me to Walk in the Light - Mother's Day Song Mother's Day Last year I used the last verse of "Teach Me to Walk in the Light" and the song "Teacher/Mother Do You Love Me" for the Mother's Day Primary songs in sacrament meeting. It appears that this phenomenon is growing and becoming even more common everywhere in the US church. The Damage of Mormon Mother's Day Myths - Zelophehad's Daughters We can all sound harsh at times, but this seems to be a community of sorts and following through on the different dicussions helps put context to opinions expressed. Im amazed that we arent using the most recent conference materials . We need ideals especially ones who arent ideal, so we can redefine ideal. I didnt realize Mothers Day was so close. They seemed to love the tradition and I never received negative feedback. But I see where you are coming from. However, I am concerned about the implications of a people where the female population dislikes the concept of motherhood or at least dislikes it enough that they do not want to celebrate Mother's Day. They really did. It was a very honest list, but emphasized that the things she would change had nothing to do with looking good, acting a certain way, or different callings. It isn't in every country so I don't know why it has to be in just a few. As always, Kurt, I was happy to give you a hand with this! In addition, there are doctrinal and scriptural classes for . I would love to avoid Mothers Day meetings, just because they are usually tedious, but I love to go for the sake of seeing my kids sing. There are wrongs that need redressing THE major Mothers Day talk in Sacrament Meeting in our ward this week, I have forwarded all of this discussion on to him! At the end of the survey there was a comments box where individuals could leave specific feedback to bishoprics that organize Mothers Day. Maybe, eventually, I will heal and that will change. On the other hand, women tended to speak about motherhood as the most emotionally-exhausting and time-consuming chore imaginable. Our new bishop, for the last three years, gave no gift or acknowledgement. Actually, Ive never heard anything about Heavenly Mother beyond, Isnt it so wonderful that we believe in a Heavenly Mother?!. Not until the 1600s did people start associating the holiday with their own actual mothers (Mothering Day in the UK). Maybe we should do it eucharistic-like so I dont have to feel guilty? One of my talks I focused on Moses and the 5 women at the beginning of his life and the different roles they played: Shiphrah & Puah, the midwives who saved his and countless other Hebrew boys lives, Jochebed his birthmother and what it must have taken to put him in the basket and shut the lid (shes a stronger woman than I am! Ere the sun goes down: Is it apeople incapable of focusing on the joy of others? I only wish my daughter could come in for graduation I am sure we would skip church together that morning! One of my favorite talks ever wasnt a Mothers Day talk but was given by a mother talking about mothering (we were on vacation, so didnt know the woman speaking). Her mother didnt come across as being perfect, but rather imperfect but faithfully trying, and her simple persistent efforts turned out to be eternally valuable. In order to equally celebrate Fatherhood , the males (12 years+) all get Nachos on Fathers Day (served up by the RS Presidency.). Then she spoke with conviction about the grace of Godthe grace that helped her forgive herself for the serious problems she caused her children that could have been prevented if shed prepared herself, and the grace that helped her achieve later in life the spiritual depth she had lacked when her children were young. The good talks that I have heard tend toaddressthe details ofan individual womans life, in all its messiness and particularity. Latter-day Saints in a contemporary congregation partake of the sacrament. Ive decided to see if I can discern consistent reasons why the good ones are good and the bad ones are terrible. There is a *big* difference a HUGE difference between being *foreordained* to something and actually **BEING** something, as is made very clear in the temple. Oh yes, Ive read the scriptures to be like Him, to be perfect. I'd had a challenging morning, but somehow, my 3-year-old-daughter was decked out and ready for church on time. Crowd-sourcing request each year when I plan the Mother's Day sacrament meeting I feel an extra bit of pressure to make it special for our wives and mothers. "We express our love to those in this congregation and our prayers for the victims and their families. Talk topics could be: - examples in the scriptures (Eve, Ruth, Naomi, Esther, Sarah, Mary, Sariah, etc), - early Saints (Lucy Mack, Emma, Eliza R Snow, Aurelia Rogers, etc), - influence of (teachers, nurses, aunts, grandmas, etc). But her mother held a yardstick, and if her daughter played the wrong key, her mother smacked her across the back ofher hands, thus providing sufficient negative reinforcement to motivate her to do it right the next time through. Kristine, thank you again. Nourishing their souls instead of feeding their bodies? The talks are mostly bearable (though no picnic), but the worst is when the youth would spread out in search of women who were not holding whatever flower or chocolate. I get fed up listening every year to only men saying how wonderful their wives and mothers are. I dont know why that would be, unless people are just assuming we ache for something more to nurture. 18 Powerful LDS Scriptures on Mothers | Read Them All Here May 2011 was the best mothers day sacrament mtg Ive ever attended. There there is the secular appeal - it causes a pain to those who are not mothers. My Mother will one day reach the godstage with my Father and will have there own planet. Respect her. #46 That is an awesome idea for your talk. I think Emma and Naomi are very neglected women in our teachings (understatement considering the general neglect). My own dear mother, long since gone to her reward, summed up the essence of the perfect Mothers Day talk quite nicely. The worst talk I ever heard came from a woman who described how her mother used to sit by her during piano lessons. But I certainly enjoyed the beauty of the whole situation and was very glad to see so many young peole in the Church on Sunday. The first one we did was a modified version of "Teacher Do You Love Me". The Best LDS Talks on Motherhood | LDS Daily Just plant a tree and name it after our mothers! 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Finally, Elder Holland offers his thanks to mothers around the world. My best friend (unmarried, childless at 51) has been asked to speak. I actually gave two sacrament meeting talks on Mothers Day during our childless/infertile years. And dont even get me started on the Are We Not All Mothers tripe. 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Print out the short questionnaires included in the printable and distribute them to the mothers in your ward a few weeks before Mother's Day. Ugh ugh ugh. Yea like all of you My Mother sucked too. And out the door I flee. Thanks for all your thoughts. all while X sat smugly on the stand. Mark, very good advice IMO. I totally agree. Thanks, kc! This talk by Sheri Dew focuses on how motherhood is for all women, regardless if they have children or not. Support Epic Family Fun! Disciples of Christ know what they want and there is not need to celebrate Christmas in front of others that are not faithful. Those who are not disciples of Christ or do not have faith will find it painful to see the faith of others; thus no one should celebrate Christmas openly. Even men who are on diets. I am on the Speakers Bureau for the Rape Abuse and Incest National Network (RAINN) and we would welcome the donations too. Didn't Sheri Dew give a talk titled, "Are We Not All Mothers?" Beware the philosophies of Hallmark, mingled with scripture. lol. Ours, like most, has its strengths and its weaknesses. I was supposed to talk two weeks ago on the purpose of the Sacrament but ended up in surgery instead, and upon returning to church last Sunday was asked to reschedule. Most detested thing, 3rd hour chatting and eating. Sorry for the sacrilege I think all women want massages but not sure the church is the right place for it. Our current Bishop decided not to do anything for mothers day. I have attended other Christian churches enough to realize why it is much less likely that they have painful mothers day talks. That wouldn't let her do such and suchall things in the end that weren't good for her daughter to do, one way of looking at it. My mother was an ideal, and she is schizophrenic, couldnt cook water without burning the pan, never cleaned a thing in the house while we were children, had rebellious to some degree or another, etc. It was the first Mothers Day since she died. Where everyone else is happy and interested in celebrating motherhood - those terrible males and those rancorous children in particular - they need to be denied for "me" and "what I want". No, an inclusive talk will be about current and eternal womanhood, one part of which may including being a biological mother in mortal life. Young Latter-day Saint priesthood . Which meeting do you think would be more meaningful to the participants? We should not celebrate anything unless it is universally acknowledged around the world. His explanation was not to offend any sister. The responsibility mothers have today has never required more vigilance. 22 Well, you dear women, I say thanks to you. The two adult speakers should center their talk on Jesus; if you want, assign a youth speaker to speak on Mothers, the Primary sings a song, and pass out the flower at the end. In partaking of the sacrament and making these commitments, Church members renew the covenant they made at baptism (see Mosiah 18:810; Doctrine and Covenants 20:37). Then I served in a Branch with 90% women who had absent husbands and who also grew up with absent fathers. Deep gratitde is owed to our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ for the Atonement which allows us each to recover from any missteps, no matter how far off the path one may stray. She never got her kids back and they never forgave her, and she died of some incurable stress induced disease. This is what I need for . Although, I hate how as a single man, some married women run from me cause they think Im going to try to seduce them or something. Alece, its usually when the admins sense that the conversation is no longer productive, or when we dont have time or patience to keep monitoring the thread. Uchtdorf. In my nearly 40 years in the church that has borne true. Its hard for those without children, who are likely never to have children, to listen to motherhood talks that don't address their situation. Make it different, and they will see you are trying. Motherhood as a path to choose to be a better disciple of Christ by caring for those Christ lives.feed my sheep, etc. It hasnt yet. Many said not to assign "mother" or "female" focused messages in sacrament meeting, others said to keep your efforts simple as long as it is sincere. They would eat honey cakes and give flowers. My oldest, the musical and noisy one, composed parodies of many favorite primary songs about a decade ago when she was under the tyranny of those zealous but misguided young mothers. And, as your mother, I will miss the delicious pie during a relaxing third hour of church. I would be totally okay if they did nothing for Mothers Day at church. Just a question here, since I am new to this blog. And the Uchtdorf talk on grace from last conference and his talk on the flowers might be good ones. Elder Ballard mainly focused on young mothers in this talk from 2008. It seems sometimes that activity organizers believe somehow that no one will participate if not bribed by pizza, pop, potato chips or pie. At least half the ward was so embarrassed for her at this point that they looked as if they wanted to crawl under the benches. It is Mother's Day and yet the day is supposed to about everything about women EXCEPT being a mother. We were each handed full size chocolate bars that had been wrapped at the end of Sac Mtng. 2 women spoke about motherhood. For sacrament meeting, we can give the men a sternly worded warning about the danger of tehpernogriffiez. The primary children sing and we are making a mothers day gift in primary. Feelings of guilt, shame, loneliness, anger, disappointment, abandonment, and not measuring up to impossible expectations are prevalent. sacrament meeting Archives - Teaching Children the Gospel Honoring Fallen Parents: The Fifth Commandment and Romans 3:23 The Fifth Commandment enjoins: "Honor thy father and thy mother." Some few are probably actively trying to avoid the gifts, trying hard to not remember the lack thats been rubbed in her face all day long. I pray the Spirit will be with me today as I give this talk. Less than nothing because the message of such a gift is that the person is not important. I find women in general to be compassionate and sensitive to other people and a joy to be around. It is based only partially on a professional clergy with access to time-proven messages and more likely on fundamental theological differences. Idealsno, no maam not for me. My worst MD talk came in the Fast and Testimony meeting the week before in which my father, who was visiting since he no longer lived in our ward, decided to give some incredibly intimate details about his divorce and why he blamed it on several of his children, but not others. Perhaps it shouldnt be mothers day, but be Womans day and celebrate the contributions of women of faith in their families and communities. In Bishopric meeting this year, I quoted your little sister regarding plants. He did not have any high-profile ward or stake calling at the time, not that it matters. How about honoring our mothers by not just focusing on what they do or have done for us (guilt trip for those that feel they never do enough) but focus on ways the members can help their mothers throughout each stage of their life. So, yeah, how irritated the host is with the comments is pretty much it. Thats the last thing a mother needs, responsibility for yet another living thing. lol! Not a perfect example but I was striving for some other options besides stripling warriors moms. I was initially surprised he went that way, but I have to say although Ive occasionally heard people say they wish something were did, I heard many complaints every previous year that something was done about what that something was. Next, it is always very specific so as to not offend anyone. Last year, I gave this talk. Why shouldn't women be those who teach about the glory of god that is woman? In the spirit of the quib in #21 we should just cancel these commercial holidays. Do other Christian women struggle with church-going on this day? My own plan of attack: 1) lay some knowledge on people (see above), 2) talk about our own mothers and that they are real people who faced real struggles, 3) the Plan of Happiness (is that what were calling it now?) So Im on for Mothers Day and have been assigned Julie Becks talk on the history of Relief Society as topic. Or the best of both worldssend all women to RS and have the chocolate there so you get the women to walk through the door instead of to their cars, and so the kids arent begging for it? Not within an hour of reading this post did I get a call from a member of our bishopric asking me to speak on Sunday. Topical Guide, Assembly for Worship, Index to the Triple Combination, Assemble, Meetings in the Church, Handbook 2, 18, Speaking in Sacrament Meeting? youth.ChurchofJesusChrist.org, Is Sacrament Meeting a Top-of-the-Mountain Experience for You? 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Check out our selection of LDS church programs for baptisms, church activities, and sacrament meetings. See also What to Expect at Church Services. Speaking for myself, I think Fathers Day is much easier. This talk by Elaine S. Dalton helps fathers understand the importance of loving and cherishing the women in their life. Why does the church HAVE to be a part of it? Your comment was excellent, especially this part: Jesus the Messiah wasnt just sinless, He was God. We do need to have some kind of an ideal, even if we may not measure up to it occasionally, or even ever! The rest of us mortals should stick with real.. I have an aversion to bringing my family's celebration intochurch and causing other women pain. Sacrament Meeting - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Mothers Day was pure torture and the only time I ever serious entertain thoughts of staying home. My wife and I were not in his ward to hear the talk, but he told us about it later. Nothanks to my back problems got to fly non-stop from Atlanta to Seattle.
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