We recommend upgrading your current browser or. Back in the (other) bad old days of shortages I had also made up a run of 200 rounds of 55 grain FMJ and put them through a mini-14 without a hiccup. Item : 1360. Mostly with the 52 grain bullets. 0000006710 00000 n Item Number: 18607. There is no single max load, since every action, barrel, case, primer, bullet, and lot of powder is different. CT Nosler RN generates around 3400 ft.lbs. I will try and remember to post the results here in case anyone else was wondering the same thing. . Powder: IMR 4198 36.0 grains Primer: CCI 200 AOL 2.650 I shot some of these this week, and I had three five shot groups all . I say gave because he never paid me, LOL. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 0000001007 00000 n It worked great. xHXY%p m^_l +me} C'~af,[sgP While safe in my rifles using my methods of development, please use professional guidance for your own efforts. In either a bolt action or an AR, the chamber and bore may be cut tight or loose. In my opinion H-4198 or IMR 4198 either are good choices. You are the only person that can answer your last question. Mediocre accuracy and velocity combined with lousy metering in the powder measure. I only wish it was more ready available. IMR4198 was popular with the benchresters shooting .222 Rem chambered tack drivers' 50 to 55 grain bullets back in the '50's. . Knowing twist rate of your barrel would be helpful? The H4198 load produced exceptionally light recoil but it still managed to cycle the bolt and strip another cartridge for every successive shot. Some swage, while others cut the pocket rim material out of the way. Have tried 4198. Meters well, burns clean. Next, remove the residual rim of brass around the pocket. A few examples include the Ruger American (1:8), Mossberg MVP (1:9) and Thompson/Center Encore (1:10). A few bolt-action sporting and target rifles have been fitted with 1:14 twist barrels, such as the Remington 40XB, Husqvarna and various Cooper rifles. Dime sized groups at 150 yds. He said it was loaded for his T/C pistol and he sold the pistol and forgot to give the guy the ammo. The .223 Remington was developed as a varmint cartridge. Initially, sporting rifles chambered for the .223 Remington and mil-spec AR pattern rifles designed to fire the M193 Ball cartridge featured a 1:12 rifling twist. If I find a bad one, I check the rest and put any that fail to fit the gauge aside. Proven metering and necessary elements were added to make it extremely insensitive to hot/cold temperatures. Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. Ive had good luck using the RCBS crimp remover tool mounted on the companys powered case-prep center. many years ago long before I had any interest in AR-15s, has reams of 223 Rem. These bullets can include lead tips, hollowpoints and plastic tips, with the most popular versions usually weighing between 35 and 55 grains. 0000001516 00000 n I haven't chronograph-ed the the load but out of my Remington 700 Varmitter, it's a shooter. , I found that after trying 3 powder choices that 4198 was very accurate and very very clean shooting. It burns pretty cleanly. Using Hornady 40g V-Max and IMR4198. how old was jan stenerud when he retired. Great powder. IMR 4198 Powder, Hazmat Shipping: GunBroker is the largest seller of Reloading Supplies Ammunition Reloading All: 973357781. . Well that's pretty quick. Lot's of problems reported using light charges of 4198 especially with short stroking and not picking up the next round in the magazine. While Im sure my Sun Devils accuracy results could be improved by experimenting with bulletseating depth (the most accurate load averaged 0.38 inch at 100 yards and had a COL of 2.250 inches), determining the appropriate powder charge weight for each specific bullet to achieve reliable and safe functioning overshadowed my concern of where to precisely seat the bullet for optimum accuracy. of IMR4198 and 52gr bullets. Rick, Your 24.7gr of H4198 with the 39 & 40 is 2.2 gr more powder than Hodgdon recommends for the 33gr bullet. Constitutional Carry may have a trap built in. 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You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. One new winner* is announced every week! My barrel is a 1:8 twist though so I switched to a heavier bullet to tighten the groups. My current favorite for the .223/5.56 is Ramshot Tac, but have used over a dozen powders from Accurate 2015 to H-4895 over the years with better results than 4198. As I waited for chronograph conditions, I kept busy plinking my Challenge Target Shoot-n-stake 8" plate. intend on doing with this bullet, and what you intend shooting it out of. JavaScript is disabled. I have come to the conclusion that if this doesn't shoot accurately in your rifle, nothing will. shooting my 38-55 with lead bullets, 255 gr. All Rights Reserved. Powders include IMR I have loaded 18.5 grs with a 55 gr bullet , still cycled the M16 action. I don't recall any data using I-4198. We need to get one thing straight. 0000005092 00000 n I've been having excellent results with some very old IMR 4198 and Nosler 40 grain Ballistic tip bullets in my 11.5" SBR. Ive weighed several hundred pieces having various headstamps and concluded, in most cases, the difference in ballistic performance is negligible. Clean and inspect the cases, lube and full-length resize/decap, clean, and inspect them again. Most other manufacturers list it only up to 52 grain bullets. Many do not offer an especially high ballistic coefficient (BC), which is fine for most prairie varmint shooting. Good cycling out of the AR15. Good versatile powder, use it in 223/5.56 ands 300 Blackout subsonic rounds. I think I got it for 45-70 but never used it. It is important to mention that the 5.56 NATO is not fully interchangeable with the .223 Remington. When i pick up the handle it wants to cut the powder, i relieve the preasure on the handle a couple of times and it will work it's way threw. A light roll crimp (achievable using most standard seating dies) is adequate. This powder is dyed grey-black and the powder kernels are cut longer to more resemble original, Canadian-made IMR-4198. I had a 222 and it was.amazing in that cartridge. 2 Reply Thomaswitt46 2 yr. ago Sierra lists it for up to 55grain bullets. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. Several, including H335, BL-C(2), Varget, Benchmark, IMR 8208 XBR, H4895, and CFE 223 have proven to be the most versatile choices with all bullet weights. Shoots outstanding ! . 223 using Hornady bulk 55gr FMJ boat tail bullets over Hodgdon CFE223 or IMR 4198. It was in the Hornady manual and the power was available so I picked it up. Big difference between the accuracy needed for 300 yard P-dog shots and across-the room HD shots. Burn rates range from IMR 4198 (fastest) to CFE 223 (slowest). IT WORKS REALLY GOOD ON MY 223 AMMO RELOADS. None of the cartridges in the accompanying data were crimped, as they were fed and fired in single-shot mode. I am using a 55 grain Hornady FMJ bullet with Sellier and Bellot small rifle primers. Many reviews state that military cases are heavier than commercial brass. Imr. 0000013745 00000 n 0000006732 00000 n That's what my 222 was. Your CFE 223 is more efficient for 69 gr. All Shotguns; Bolt Action Shotguns; The original load was a 160-gr. IMR 4198. Stick powders that meter like ball. I really liked this load. Pressure tested at 55,000psi as per Hodgdon's Manual 2004. of IMR4198 and 52gr bullets. Around 1959, the .222 Special was renamed the .223 Remington to prevent confusion, but it was not introduced commercially until December 1963 in the Remington Model 760 pump-action rifle and was soon chambered in other rifles. 3298 do you have a reloading book? ONLY TWO DEFINING FORCES HAVE GIVEN UP THEIR LIVES FOR YOU. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. I scale my charges most of the time. Such data should be approached by working up from published starting loads. Looking for a 7mm rem mag bolt action or browning blr lever action browning bar.semi auto might be interested in other calibers also. "My barrel is a 1:8 twist though so I switched to a heavier bullet to tighten the groups.". This has shot one hole groups for years. I am about done with a pound container of 4198 for the 223. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! If nothing else, this has been educational for me. Keep up the good work IMR. That was last available around 2011. In the years since, twist rates in AR rifles intended primarily for civilian sales have also been offered with 1:8 and 1:9 twist rates, with some specialty rifles featuring a 1:6.5 twist to stabilize match bullets weighing up to 90 grains. I've had friends that couldn't get a gun to shoot good groups,and ran this load in them,and got great results. That was a long time ago. I have one of the ancient Ohaus Du-o-Measures and while it cuts a kernel here and there, it meters far better than, say 4350. Forum. 0000016068 00000 n Then back to a (published here) max load of 4227 for 300 gr jacketed bullets. 0000001309 00000 n Give a Gift The load data says a min of 18.8 grains up to a maximum of 20.4. IMR or H4198 powder is one of the "fastest" recommended powders for 55 grain bullets in an AR semi-automatic. Current production IMR-4198 should be Canadian-made and can cycle most AR15's when loaded to maximum loads. My AR is a 16" Bushmaster M4 chambered in 5.56. 0000001760 00000 n riflesa CZ 527 bolt action and a Sun Devil SD-15 autoloaderto use for this report, and I built a lot of handloads to shoot in both guns. IMR-8208 XBR yields excellent accuracy with 69s or 77s. If youre not shooting a single-shot rifle, the length of the magazine box may dicatate the maximum COL possible. If so you can check that by using it. I weighed more than 10 different lot numbers of 5.56 cases from different manufacturers, as well as checking their water capacity. The maximum listed by IMR for a 55 gr bullet was 21.5 gr back then (2001) and what i used. I've used between 19 and 20.5 grains of IMR 4198 with mixed results. I also built some specialty 223 Rem. It was very clean burning and did not gunk up the gas tube, leading to the original reputation that the rifle was extremely reliable and really didn't need cleaning. 62gr: Code: Cartridge : .223 Rem. Shoots consistently out of my muzzleloader. Shooter's Reference Load Data for .223 Remington .223 Remington - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Recipe Type: Rifle 55,000 PSI STANDARD SAAMI COMMERCIAL SPECIFICATIONS Pistol CUSTOM LONG THROAT Reduced Load Bullet Weight: ALL 30 gr 34 gr 35 gr 36 gr 40 gr 42 gr 43 gr 45 gr 50 gr 51 gr 52 gr This article is intended for handloaders who have experience reloading for their bolt-action rifles and now want to handload for an AR-style semiautomatic rifle. 0000001288 00000 n I've only used it on 40 and 50 grain bullets but nothing heavier than that. They have to operate the gun safely and reliably before you can begin to evaluate their ballistic performance downrange. }"tP2q4M.03#b[s0j;KR 8frU_Gu{s-i>MC>SHjBZi\jy%+1 dUv@GqZa\^(,=z+CM&D([k:fd;(\h u-7 )K HWECcQtRUFxpVRF6C&sh^z.FE_OS 2{emCAE- 6H']nbSn]$6}arsR$^7Uu~2Jed!$P)h+Le?~9Wce7 *+]-t `Ll4 g`50& d;{iCm={k4?|(z8qnXomaIAx Introduced in 1965 with the .444 Marlin cartridge, the Model 444 was the most powerful lever action of its day. It's a very versatile powder with many applications. Old Dupont IMR 4198 can be loaded to 21.5 gr with 55gr bullets. The case was based on a lengthened .222 Remington that offered powder capacity and velocity increases. Never used it, don't know much about it. I got a 8 pound key of 4198 for my wifes bolt action 223. Hodgdon offers more than a dozen different propellants for reloading 223/5.56 ammo. Also, I read that it works great with my .223. Do you mind giving me the IMR4198 load you used on the 50 grain? H4198 worked better than the CFE BLK and would be a good second choice in powder for the 125 gr. The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? and 222 Rem. Will buy more when its available. Varget Vs IMR4198 Donation Goal Donate Now Goal amount for this year: 6000 USD, Received: 5815 USD (97%) Our Annual server fund drive is going on now! Seem's I did try lighter bullet's but ended up with the 55gr bullet's. ONE IS JESUS CHRIST, FOR YOUR SOUL, AND THE OTHER IS THE AMERICAN SOLDIER, FOR YOUR FREEDOM. 5 IMR 4198. I haven't had any problems what so ever with it. windshield wiper broke off while driving. Using N-133 and the same bullets, the best combination came at 25.6gr. That always seemed to work for me but I was nver able to get a 223 to shoot with an old Rem 788 in 222 Rm. Used to be very popular in .221 FB, .222, and .223. 0000024785 00000 n I is just kidding yaw. This is a compressed charged (anything over 25gr with 3031 in a 223 Rem case will be a compressed charge) and needs to have a slight crimp in it. This donation drive helps fund Cast Boolits for an entire year, and helps support our 2nd amendment rights! I burn up 10 lbs of old Dupont IMR 4198 in an M16A1 carbine with a 14.5 inch barrel and a Ruger Mini14. This combination has proven to be very good from a number of rifles, not only mine. . waterfwlr Apr 30, 2015 #15 Nonetheless, their average water capacity was almost the same as the combined average of the weighed commercial brass. Excuse my ignorance. Maybe you'll have no issues but lot's do with 4198 powders in AR's. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting. Occasionally, I have experimented with varying bulletseating depth to achieve better groups in my bolt actions, but the really short throat of the 223 Rem. The only draw back is the V-Max 53's need a 1-9 or 1-10 to shoot accurately in the 223s'. All the accompanying data was developed using Winchester Small Rifle primers. The Lee Factory Crimp die also works very well and provides a reasonably uniform crimp, even when using cases that are not all exactly the same length. Because burning propellant has only one purpose in a bolt gunto propel the bullet out of the barrel. Of course, Hodgdon provides load data for every bullet weight theyve tested with all compatible propellants yielding safe and reliable ballistic data. New Hornady cases were used exclusively here and were uniform in weight, length, flash hole size, etc. When you get over 300gn I shoot 70-73gn of H4198 and will try H322 and IMR 3031 today. I use 4198 to push an assortment of .223 through my 3 bolt action guns. Barrel Break-In: What It Is. When loading ammunition to be used in the field, and fired in a variety of actions and rifle types, I prefer a crimp to keep bullets in place. Semi auto Comes with extra barrell (full 2-3/4) Light use very good condition 28 - 12 ga Single Shot Paragon Model WS cartridge case severely limits how much you can vary bulletseating depth, so I havent done much of it. We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and advocacy centered around individual gun owners. The selection of suitable powders for handloading the .223 Remington is huge, with some developed specifically to optimize .223 performance. Burns consistently and clean. Accuracy Load IMR-4198 23.0 3500 1088 Hunting Load H335 29.1 3700 1216. If you wanted a longer range varmint load use the 53 V-max and 8208. I believe, I am what is keeping it from its full potential. Buy 5 Lbs. To cut to the chase. I taught my wife to reload years ago seemed to help with the misunderstanding part. Compressed charges of slower-burn-rate propellants are more compatible with loading heavier bullets. I have on hand a few pounds of IMR 4198 that I normally use in my 6.8, and was looking into loading some 55 grain 223 rounds with it. I don't have my data here in front of me but I use IMR-4198 with a 50gr V-Max. Mag, IMR-4198 was pretty much the go to powder for a couple decades. Its my go-to powder for cast 308 loads in several rifles. __________________ THANKS FOR THE GREAT PRODUCT AND SERVICE. Only loaded a pound of it and moved on to AA2230, but it worked fine out of a mid-length carbine. I tried some 4198 and can shoot clover leafs at 50 yards (with XS sights even !) Buy Powder - IMR 4198 - 1lb: GunBroker is the largest seller of Reloading Supplies Ammunition Reloading All: 973169941. . The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. IMR 3031 Smokeless Powder Smokeless Powder IMR Powder Co. IMR 3031 1 Container Approximate net weight 1lb. This is my Varmint load for my VTR-15 RIFLE (22" barrel). L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm Barrel Length : 16.0 inch = 406.4 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. However, in direct-impingement ARs, the gas port diameter and how far its located along the barrel are fixed. I recently bought reloading equipment for my son-in-law and grandsons to reload the .45-70 for Ohio deer hunting. I use IMR 4198 with Sierra Matching 69 gr with very good results. Hope its still the same burn rate? For example, most bullet manufacturers offer highly frangible varmint bullets that give near-explosive results on thin-skinned pests such as ground squirrels and prairie dogs. I highly recommend this powder and fully recommend this company. For the reasons y'all posted above. In either AR action type, the buffer spring can be replaced to vary the spring rate over a limited range. Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. A forum community dedicated to all firearm owners and enthusiasts. The brass stays in the chamber and/or the rim is torn or bent. Let me ask you this. As I only reload what I shoot. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" The Apostle Paul in Romans 1:22. One thing I will say is that I had someone try to reload 223 in my press one time that had been shot through a suppressed AR and even after sizing/depriming the case would spring back into a larger shape and would end up not chambering. A friend gave me a little over 100 rounds of loaded .223. If you choose this route, dont get aggressive and recut the pockets too much. 20.6 grains is my maximum with 52/53 grain bullets seated @ 2.250". 0000003089 00000 n For a roll crimp to offer uniform results, cases must be trimmed to a uniform length. It is also outstanding in cartridges like the 444 Marlin and 7.62 X 39. I found a pound in my stash. I bought IMR 4198 powder because it was listed on Hodgdon's website as a Military duplicate load. H4198 is outstanding in cartridges like the 222 Remington . The bullets nose profile, i.e., the ogive shape, significantly affects the cartridge overall length (COL). Even if it shoots good I probably won't buy anymore. Contributing Editor for RifleShooter Magazine, Brad Fitzpatrick gives us a review of this modernized version of an iconic favorite. Model : UPC : 754486053066. What the heck, the load isn't hot so I'll try it. If just a pound , I'd give up on it and just get some H-335 and never look back . ]/S2 YeWB4b.h^$gs:DEYxj*QKihk:I"NIGTpc=MC}S2IjSi8oo;aIf"! 325gr FTX 46gr Imr 4198. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I use a case/cartridge headspace gauge to spot-check roughly 10 percent of my brass after completing case prep. One of the three most accurate rifles I ever owned. I have recently finished up the last of my H335 and I have been unable to find any to replace it with. A lot of you are out there, and I, myself, fell into this category not so long ago. . I get excellent accuracy from H-4198 with 52/53 grain match bullets. You might be able to chamber that round in your bolt gun by forcing the bolt to close, but youll likely jam the action in an AR that the forward assist cant overcome. First powder I used in the .223 and good for making some accurate loads, but maybe a little fast for the cartridge. Trade only. First, almost all military and some commercial rounds have crimped-in primers. Using this powder with .223 caliber has yielded great results.
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